Enterococcus Faecalis
I have provided sniplets from various site about Enterococcus Faecalis which is an ingredient in Threelac. It can cause you to become immune to other antibiotics and other horrible things. Please read before using Threelac. This product should be banned as it is unsafehttp://medinfo.ufl.edu/year2/mmid/bms5300/bugs/strfaeca.htmlThe enterococcus (previously Streptococcus faecalis), causes many of the same problems as other members of the intestinal flora. These include opportunistic urinary tract infections and wound infections
http://www.ebi.ac.uk/2can/genomes/genomes.html?http://www.ebi.ac.uk/2can/genomes/bacteria/Enterococcus_faecalis.html
Scientists have identified a virulence region never seen before in the genome of Enterococcus faecalis - a leading cause of bacterial infection among hospital patients. There has long been concern about the dangers of antibiotic resistance and its implications for the return of infectious diseases that cannot be effectively treated.
http://www.phac-aspc.gc.ca/msds-ftss/msds146e.html
Canadada lists it as: MATERIAL SAFETY DATA SHEET - INFECTIOUS SUBSTANCES
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Enterococcus_faecalis
Enterococcus faecalis is a Gram-positive commensal bacteria inhabiting the alimentary canals of humans and animals, are now acknowledged to be organisms capable of causing life-threatening infections in humans, especially in the nosocomial (hospital) environment. The existence of enterococci in such a dual role is facilitated, at least in part, by its intrinsic and acquired resistance to virtually all antibiotics currently in use.
E. facaelis can cause endocarditis, as well as bladder, prostate, and epididymal infections; nervous system infections are less common.
http://www.jci.org/cgi/content/short/116/10/2799?rss=1
Increasing multidrug resistance in Enterococcus faecalis, a nosocomial opportunist and common cause of bacterial endocarditis, emphasizes the need for alternative therapeutic approaches such as immunotherapy or immunoprophylaxis.
http://content.nejm.org/cgi/content/short/332/1/26
Although Enterococcus faecalis was once regarded as nonpathogenic, this opportunistic gram-positive coccus now ranks among the most troublesome hospital pathogens. It has intrinsic resistance to many antibiotics and a remarkable capacity for developing resistance to others.
http://www.pslgroup.com/dg/25d56.htm
Infections caused by Enterococcus faecalis include urinary tract, surgical wound, abdominal, pelvic and neonatal infections. Enterococcus faecalis is an important cause of endocarditis and mortality due to enterococcal bacteremia. It is estimated that well over 800,000 cases per year of enterococcus infections are reported in the U.S. alone, the third largest cause of hospital based infections. Many strains of Enterococcus faecalis are resistant to most antibiotics and many have acquired resistance to vancomycin, rendering conventional therapies insufficient for serious infections.
Yes, it is VERY VERY important you know what strain of E. Faecalis you are talking about. Some E. Coli strains are deadly, some are necessary. E. Faecalis no doubt can cause problems, if it possesses certain virulence traits. The one they use in this probiotic, I'm sure, does not have any virulence and poses no risk. While it may cause problems in SEVERELY immunocompromised people, so does any strain of lactobacillus. Bottom line - I wouldn't worry about it. The makers of threelac would not be involved in such irresponsibility. These people are a lot more intelligent than it may seem.
ACTUALLY YOU ARE INCORRECT. Snowden the mfg of Threelac actually informed Everett Hale now the former CEO/President that Threelac was not to be taken long term and would not be safe.
This was put on Cure Zone against the Enterococcus Faecalis:
I have provided sniplets from various site about Enterococcus Faecalis which is an ingredient in Threelac. It can cause you to become immune to other antibiotics and other horrible things. Please read before using Threelac. This product should be banned as it is unsafehttp://medinfo.ufl.edu/year2/mmid/bms5300/bugs/strfaeca.html
The enterococcus (previously Streptococcus faecalis), causes many of the same problems as other members of the intestinal flora. These include opportunistic urinary tract infections and wound infections
http://www.ebi.ac.uk/2can/genomes/genomes.html?http://www.ebi.ac.uk/2can/genomes/bacteria/Enterococcus_faecalis.html
Scientists have identified a virulence region never seen before in the genome of Enterococcus faecalis - a leading cause of bacterial infection among hospital patients. There has long been concern about the dangers of antibiotic resistance and its implications for the return of infectious diseases that cannot be effectively treated.
http://www.phac-aspc.gc.ca/msds-ftss/msds146e.html
Canadada lists it as: MATERIAL SAFETY DATA SHEET - INFECTIOUS SUBSTANCES
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Enterococcus_faecalis
Enterococcus faecalis is a Gram-positive commensal bacteria inhabiting the alimentary canals of humans and animals, are now acknowledged to be organisms capable of causing life-threatening infections in humans, especially in the nosocomial (hospital) environment. The existence of enterococci in such a dual role is facilitated, at least in part, by its intrinsic and acquired resistance to virtually all antibiotics currently in use.
E. facaelis can cause endocarditis, as well as bladder, prostate, and epididymal infections; nervous system infections are less common.
http://www.jci.org/cgi/content/short/116/10/2799?rss=1
Increasing multidrug resistance in Enterococcus faecalis, a nosocomial opportunist and common cause of bacterial endocarditis, emphasizes the need for alternative therapeutic approaches such as immunotherapy or immunoprophylaxis.
http://content.nejm.org/cgi/content/short/332/1/26
Although Enterococcus faecalis was once regarded as nonpathogenic, this opportunistic gram-positive coccus now ranks among the most troublesome hospital pathogens. It has intrinsic resistance to many antibiotics and a remarkable capacity for developing resistance to others.
http://www.pslgroup.com/dg/25d56.htm
Infections caused by Enterococcus faecalis include urinary tract, surgical wound, abdominal, pelvic and neonatal infections. Enterococcus faecalis is an important cause of endocarditis and mortality due to enterococcal bacteremia. It is estimated that well over 800,000 cases per year of enterococcus infections are reported in the U.S. alone, the third largest cause of hospital based infections. Many strains of Enterococcus faecalis are resistant to most antibiotics and many have acquired resistance to vancomycin, rendering conventional therapies insufficient for serious infections.
You must have completely missed my point, because you still haven't given any information about the strain that is used in threelac or the strain that is bad. It is possible that both strains are bad - but unlikely. There are strains of salmonella that are not very pathgenic and simply come and go. But obviously then there are strains that can kill you.
ACTUALLY YOU ARE INCORRECT. Snowden the mfg of Threelac actually informed Everett Hale now the former CEO/President that Threelac was not to be taken long term and would not be safe.
This was put on Cure Zone against the Enterococcus Faecalis:
I have provided sniplets from various site about Enterococcus Faecalis which is an ingredient in Threelac. It can cause you to become immune to other antibiotics and other horrible things. Please read before using Threelac. This product should be banned as it is unsafehttp://medinfo.ufl.edu/year2/mmid/bms5300/bugs/strfaeca.html
The enterococcus (previously Streptococcus faecalis), causes many of the same problems as other members of the intestinal flora. These include opportunistic urinary tract infections and wound infections
http://www.ebi.ac.uk/2can/genomes/genomes.html?http://www.ebi.ac.uk/2can/genomes/bacteria/Enterococcus_faecalis.html
Scientists have identified a virulence region never seen before in the genome of Enterococcus faecalis - a leading cause of bacterial infection among hospital patients. There has long been concern about the dangers of antibiotic resistance and its implications for the return of infectious diseases that cannot be effectively treated.
http://www.phac-aspc.gc.ca/msds-ftss/msds146e.html
Canadada lists it as: MATERIAL SAFETY DATA SHEET - INFECTIOUS SUBSTANCES
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Enterococcus_faecalis
Enterococcus faecalis is a Gram-positive commensal bacteria inhabiting the alimentary canals of humans and animals, are now acknowledged to be organisms capable of causing life-threatening infections in humans, especially in the nosocomial (hospital) environment. The existence of enterococci in such a dual role is facilitated, at least in part, by its intrinsic and acquired resistance to virtually all antibiotics currently in use.
E. facaelis can cause endocarditis, as well as bladder, prostate, and epididymal infections; nervous system infections are less common.
http://www.jci.org/cgi/content/short/116/10/2799?rss=1
Increasing multidrug resistance in Enterococcus faecalis, a nosocomial opportunist and common cause of bacterial endocarditis, emphasizes the need for alternative therapeutic approaches such as immunotherapy or immunoprophylaxis.
http://content.nejm.org/cgi/content/short/332/1/26
Although Enterococcus faecalis was once regarded as nonpathogenic, this opportunistic gram-positive coccus now ranks among the most troublesome hospital pathogens. It has intrinsic resistance to many antibiotics and a remarkable capacity for developing resistance to others.
http://www.pslgroup.com/dg/25d56.htm
Infections caused by Enterococcus faecalis include urinary tract, surgical wound, abdominal, pelvic and neonatal infections. Enterococcus faecalis is an important cause of endocarditis and mortality due to enterococcal bacteremia. It is estimated that well over 800,000 cases per year of enterococcus infections are reported in the U.S. alone, the third largest cause of hospital based infections. Many strains of Enterococcus faecalis are resistant to most antibiotics and many have acquired resistance to vancomycin, rendering conventional therapies insufficient for serious infections.
gee, business competition for sick people's money really gets ugly doesn't it...
I'm sure the makers of Three-lac must have used a strain of Enterococcus Faecalis that isn't deadly. However, since this bacteria can be so resistant to antibiotics, it makes me wonder if there are circumstances where this bacteria could take over the intestinal environment, which most likely wouldn't be a great idea.
Enterococcus Faecalis is what it is. A Bud light from California or a Bud Light from Europe is the same thing a Bud Light. If you research Enterococcus Faecalis it is very scary. I have read where people have said the FDA has said Threelac is safe. The FDA has done none of the sort, they have never said that. I have been in contact with them and they are actually looking at Threelac and Enterococcus Faecalis. I believe there are many people who have become sick from it and I would not doubt a class action lawsuit is in the making against all involved in selling this trash. There should at a minimum a warning placed on every bottle stating that using this product can make yor body become immune to antibiotice. I am willing to bet if people knew the truth they would not buy it at all. People do some research and save your health or even your life
Yes but for the Grace of God there goes I.I have lived as good and decent life as anyone.But it happened to me,soo it could easily be you.If I found a cure I would give it to people no charge If it took my last dime,because Itruly know what people with this mystery disease(at least to the Americcan medical society) They stickk there heads in the sand ,and say well I have never been taught how to treat that,I was told to get on the internet by my Dr.Now how sad is this thing?
my comments were not a knock on three lac, I really don't have an opinion on that product. No, my comment was directed at the tactics of competition used by various supplement makers against each other.
John g
