Meniere's
Does anyone have any personal experience with or knowledge of Meniere's? I've been very ugly-sick for nearly three years. I thought I caused my own troubles by improperly chelating, but have just been to an excellent dentist and also an ENT Dr. (Ears/Nose/Throat). The DDS confirmed severe TMJ (including dislocated jaw from a fall). And the ENT is now diagnosing Meniere's. I have all symptoms to the nth degree - Tinnitis, imbalance/dizziness, hearing loss, and "aural fullness".
This condition affects all areas of function from balance, thinking, sensory, nerves, nausea. It explains why I've felt so crappy.
http://oto.wustl.edu/men/mn1.htm
Judy
You need to look into a dislocated atlas --- the first vertebra in the neck. It has a lot to do with menieres and with TMJ. It also can affect the bowel and immunity. You can't go to a regular chiropractor to have this fixed. They might even tell you that nothing is wrong with the atlas. Don't believe them. Go to one of the people listed on this site: www.upcspine.com Or this site: www.atlasprofilax.com
Of course, there may be an infection there, but I'd give you odds of 100:1 that the atlas is also out.
Hi Polly,
Sorry to be long-winded here, but I have been really sick, and trying to get better!
I have a lot of spinal problems, whether I was born with them, or they developed over years. Without chiropractic and kinesiology, I would have been in a wheelchair years ago.
I went to an Atlas Orthogonal chiro, and he didn't really accomplish anything positive, after giving him a lot of money for my son and myself. I'm very angry at him because he gave me IV-DMPS, and did it wrong. That is where my hearing loss began. It was immediate. I had vertigo, nystagmus, tinnitis, and hearing loss right there in his office. And he thought it was funny.
Now we're going to a NUCCA chiro. He has worked wonders with many people. He has helped me, especially my nervous system, but I haven't gotten any relief in my jaw. My new dentist confirmed TMJ, and fit me with a stent (like a retainer) that pulled my jaw out of my ear - literally. I was amazed at the relief I am getting. I feel my whole body shifting, but with the new positioning, once again, my neck is driving me crazy!
I printed out the report you posted about the Atlas studies on the autistic kids. Very amazing. I have a nephew who is very handicapped (chromosomal damage, blind, autism). We've gotten tremendous help for him over the years through various manipulations and kinesiology. I know that without it, he'd be a lot worse off.
I may try to see these people you've suggested. This illness renders people handicapped. If they could get me back up on my feet, it'd be amazing. It is believed that VanGogh had Meniere's...
I think this Meniere's stuff also has to do with blood pressure and kidney pressure. I'm trying to figure out how to balance that. Any ideas?
BTW, my son and I are taking Taurox since reading about it here. I believe it helps me considerably. My energy level has doubled. I'm also taking a couple of other things, though.
Thanks,
Judy
>I went to an Atlas Orthogonal chiro, and he didn't really accomplish anything positive, after giving him a lot of money for my son and myself.
Sorry to hear that. It goes to show that not everyone is competent even when taught the proper technique. Or perhaps the technique isn�t appropriate for every person.
>I'm very angry at him because he gave me IV-DMPS, and did it wrong. That is where my hearing loss began. It was immediate. I had vertigo, nystagmus, tinnitis, and hearing loss right there in his office.
Your reaction to IV-DMPS sounds absolutely dreadful. The onset time was so fast, that it couldn�t be an infection causing your tinnitis and hearing loss. Wonder if the IV-DMPS somehow changed the brain�s firing pattern.
>I may try to see these people you've suggested.
As far as I know, the doctors listed at www.upcspine.com haven�t been screened for competence. They are just doctors who practice these different techniques for adjusting the atlas and axis. The people at that site had a few good things to say about a Blair clinic, but again, that may have a lot to do with the particular practitioners. From what you have told me, there are huge differences between practitioners. Guess all I can testify to is the competence of an atlasprofilax practitioner (Ranan Shahar in Los Angeles) who adjusted my atlas and the atlas of a half dozen of my friends and relatives.
>I think this Meniere's stuff also has to do with blood pressure and kidney pressure. I'm trying to figure out how to balance that. Any ideas?
I know that the Meniere and high blood pressure can be due to a misalign atlas, so perhaps they are related. High blood pressure is hard on the kidneys, but I don�t know what other relationship there is there.
My extreme motion sickness was helped by taking taurine. There was also a mixture of herbs that my Chinese doctor gave me a year ago called �Dizzy solution.� That helped a lot. A local friend was having trouble with dizziness, and I sent her a bottle of these same herbs. It worked, but with her, the dizziness came back later. (As sick as she is, I suspect perhaps Lyme or a similar infection is keeping her down.) If you would like me to get you a bottle of the �Dizzy solution� herbs, just email me at Hattemer@adelphia.net
A combination of arginine and ornithine are needed for the cells to produce nitric oxide, which relaxes the blood vessels and may bring the blood pressure down. Of course, when you take arginine, you should probably also take lysine to help inhibit certain viruses. This website suggests using OKG and perhaps lysine.
http://www.restoreunity.org/amino_acid_arginine_can_help_red.htm There is an amino acid blend that has arginine as its base which I like. It is the super nutrient corporation�s Platinum Plus or their Essential Amino Acids (cheaper than the Platinum Plus). I�m fairly sure this was what helped my blood pressure come down twenty points.
>BTW, my son and I are taking Taurox since reading about it here. I believe it helps me considerably. My energy level has doubled. I'm also taking a couple of other things, though.
Excellent. I continue to take the Taurox every so often. I don�t seem to need it all the time.
Thanks for your comments. Here are two interesting articles on Meniere's that support attention to cervical spine theory as well as dental pathology.
1: Nippon Seikeigeka Gakkai Zasshi. 1981 Apr;55(4):371-85. Links
[The effect of the sympathetic nervous system on cervical spondylosis (author's transl)]
[Article in Japanese]
* Watanuki A.
A study on the effect of injury to the cervical spine, especially the so-called whiplash injury of the neck, has revealed that many patients who have sustained cervical trauma complain of, or later develop, vertigo similar to that encountered in Meniere's syndrome. Some authors offer clinical evidence to show that vertigo results from cervical nerve root irritation which is due to hypertrophic arthritis of the cervical spine and which responds to cervical traction. The etiology of this symptom-complex, however, remains unknown and, presenting a controversial problem, while some authors point out that irritation of the sympathetic nervous system may be important in this symptom (Meniere-like syndrome, Barre-Lieou syndrome). In this study, the significance of the sympathetic nervous system in cervical spondylosis was examined. A) The effect of electric stimulation (2V, 20cps, 1msec, 1mA) of the human anterior longitudinal ligament of the cervical spine on the finger plethysmograph (PTG). This stimulation resulted in manifest alteration of PTG, such as the appearance of tense wave or contracted wave, change of pattern and tachycardia. B) Stimulation of the tissue adjacent to the cervical vertebral column which affects the sympathetic nervous system by way of the central nervous system (ventro-median nucleus of hypothalamus: VMH) was examined by using local electroencephalogram (local-EEG) of cats. By electric stimulation (4-6V, 50cps, 1msec, 1mA) of the tissue adjacent to the cervical vertebral column, local-EEG of VMH was accelerated remarkably and blood pressure was increased. Stimulation of the sciatic nerve caused moderate acceleration with excessive electric stimulation (4-10V, 20cps, 1msec, 1mA); however, stimulation of muscles of the neck and back caused no acceleration. Sensitive receptors are probably located adjacent to the cervical vertebral column. Stimulation of the sympathetic nerve may result from stimulation of the central nervous system (hypothalamus) caused by irritation resulting from excessive instability of the cervical vertebrae. The stimulation of the sympathetic nerves may be important clinically in the pathogenesis of Barre-Lieou syndrome in cervical spondylosis.
PMID: 7276671 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE]
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1: Med Hypotheses. 2006 Sep 7; [Epub ahead of print]Click here to read Links
Meniere's disease may be caused by common intraosseous dental pathology - Diagnosis using the comparative compression sign.
* Eidelman D.
23 Rechov Atzmon, Ramat Hasharon 47287, Israel.
Meniere's disease has been ascribed to a disturbance of the vestibular apparatus or its connections within the Central Nervous System. Several hypotheses have been advanced regarding its aetiopathogenesis, but treatments based on these hypotheses have often not produced the desired results. Two cases are described where common intraosseous pathology within the lower half of the functional face, i.e. within the mandible and maxillae, was shown to be the cause of Meniere's disease. Together, these cases contributed to the chance discovery of the comparative compression sign which, when able to be elicited, may be considered pathognomonic for a dental origin of the condition. It is suggested that, in addition to other hypothesized causes involving the vestibular apparatus and the CNS, Meniere's disease and vertigo may also be caused by common, readily-identifiable intraosseous dental pathology. These unexpected findings open up a new field for future research.
PMID: 16962722 [PubMed - as supplied by publisher]
