Raw Foods

sue and others,

so im coming to the end of day 4 and have figured out that Raw/Living food eating its a SERIOUS learning process..

yesterday i learned that corn/avocados/celery/caulifower/olive oil doesnt make a good soup and may cause projectile vomit.

also that NOTHING can be added to this to prevent the projectile vomit and make it edible.

however...

i learned today that you can marinate raw veggies - (DUH) which will make them WAY better in a lot of cases-- and easier to digest.

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i am using my food processor a lot.

i am eating every kind of vegetable i can find..its amazing how amazing vegetables are--seriously.

i am eating some fruit and i have been able to tolerate it - which i couldnt do before...(i havent really had fruit for months and months - aside from the candida i am really allergic to almost all pitted fruits- im going to see if this diet knocks that out).

i think what happens after a while you balance out and sugar is not a problem anymore---at least thats what ive read (and hope happens...)

i tried a young coconut today! (I even opened it myself with butt of knife - i felt so cool) WOW amazing where has this been all my life??

i followed some recipes from alissa cohen - although i have to say that i dont like mixed up stuff so much and am going to try to stick to simple--i hate that mixed up health food bar smelling/looking food...so im avoiding making anything resembling it. theres no need to try to make a 'MOCK' everything....i think maybe there needs to be acceptance about the difference between the good for you raw vegan world and the bad cooked meatier dairy-ier yummier chocolatey-er world.

i just found a new book called RAW and it has some really amazing looking recipes----

i recommend buying some RAW food videos---i had no grasp of it at all until i did...

alissa cohens was a bit painful to get through but really helped me understand what its all about and get me in the mood to be willing to even attempt this...

i was really desperate and willing to try anything and this is giving me best results of anything so far?! its strange and rough but really good so far?

good luck,


Interesting post!

If you have IgE reaction to fruit it will not go away until your cells have mutated.
But you hopefully don't have IgE reaction to more than a few things?

Myself I started by eating mainly cooked vegetables, and slowly becoming more and more raw. But I am a weirdo: I eat fermented green tomatoes, fermented peppers, fermented cabbage....


Hi Tove,

'Mutate' may not be the word you're looking for, since it refers to genetics rather than immunity.


I am pretty sure it is "mutate", since it is the white blood cells that does it, and they are constantly renewed and learn new things.
But it is not very important wich word is used - and worse: nothing we can do about the allergy.



Hi Tove,

In the case of Candida and food 'intolerances' there are 2 areas that affect oour reaction to various foodstuffs. The first is leaky gut syndrome, in which partially broken down food molecules are able to leave the gut and interact with our immune systems and cells. The food molecules may include biologically active, very potent peptides that affect cell function. The second area concerns the metabolites created when certain foods are broken down by pathogenic bacteria and yeasts. These fermentation processes can create a range of toxins that cause quite severe reactions.
The 2 processes above can cause quite severe reactions without any allergies or faults on the part of the immune system. Clear up the dysbiosis and leaky gut and body will normalize quite rapidly


Hi,

Just a thought from an ecologist and evolutionary biologist.

Mutation means that the actual genome of the cell changes. This wood mean that IgE reactions are caused because our cells are literaly being mutated by Candida. I hope this is not the case, because if Candida had such a strong mutagenic power then worse things would happen to all of us.

For a cell to "learn" no mutation is needed. In evolutionary biology we distinguish between "adaptation" and "plasticity". "Adaptation" means that the genome changes according to some kind of selective pressure and becomes better fit to that new environment. New adaptations may arise from different mechanims, one of them being mutations. "Plasticity" means that an organims can express some genes or others according to the environment... there is no "mutation" needed, the genes are there already. I think that most Candida issues (including the so-called resistance) are rather cases of "plasticity"... Candida is doing A or B using the pool of genes that she already has.

In the case of the allergies, I would hope that what is happening is that the cells are expressing their plasticity (all cells in our organism - appart from those very little mutations that happen - share all the same genes), expressing some genes or others. This is what explains why our tissues are different... same genes in all cells but some cell types express some genes and some others.

So, this plastic trait of our cells to stop the abnormal IgE reaction may take a while, but we don't neeed to wait for a mutation, that would be almost infinitely unlikely in our lifetime.

I hope this helps clarifying this.

Cheers,
Jordi


I am no expert, please tell me if I am reight in this:
as I understood it, the white blood cells are contstantly renewed. They are made from a kind of "mold" (mould?) to a specific shape so they can learn to recognise and kill/devour certain hostile intruders. This is how a vaccine works: that the white blood cells learn to recognise a virus when they are so few they are not dangerous or they are slightly broken and therefor not really dangerous. Then when the real disease comes along with a mass of viruses, th ewhite blood cells recognise them and kill them.
When it is an IgE reactin, the white blood cells have of some reason the idea that some food bit or pollen bit is a danger and they create histamine and go in for hte kill.
After seven years or so, the "mould" might have changed and forgotten about the, lets say, apple molecule, being dangerous, and lets them thorugh wihtout fuzz.
This is why a vaccine has to be repeated after seven years or so.

Is this right?

As I understand, a general strenthening of the body can make us tolerate more despite being true alelrgic (IgE).
IgG and IgA is completely different, I think.
Right or wrong?



The adaptive immune system is based on white blood cells called lymphocytes. It has 2 parts, the humoral system, which relies on the production of antibodies by B-lymphocytes and the cellular system, which relies on the T-lymphocytes (Killer T-cells, Helper T-cells). B lymphocytes launch attacks against invading viruses and bacteria, while the T-lymphocytes protect the body against the spread of infected cells or malignant tumor cells, which the T-cells identify and destroy.

When a certain type of white blood cells (Macrophage) encounters a bacteria or virus, it identifies the invader by 'reading' certain proteins (antigens) on the viral or bacterial cell wall. The macrophage engulfs and destroys the invader, then 'posts' its antigen on its own cell wall and releases chemicals to attract other immune cells, the B lymphocytes. The B lymphocytes 'read' the enemy antigen and produce matching protein antibodies which are released into the bloodstream. When the antibodies meet other bacteria or viruses, their shape fits the viral antigen like a key in a lock. The antibodies attach themselves to the virus cell wall and attract other immune cells, which release powerful chemicals to destroy the invader.
Once the infection is over, antibodies continue to circulate for a short time, providing some short-term protection, while some of the B lymphocytes, so-called memory cells remember the viral antigen and maintain the ability to produce antibodies very rapidly in the event of another attack. The idea of a vaccine is to trigger the immune system into producing antibodies and memory cells, without actually triggering an infection. This may be achieved in one of several ways. The virus or bacteria may be killed before injection, its ability to reproduce may be impaired or in some cases, only a part of the virus is injected. The efficacy of a vaccine is measured by measuring the concentration of antibodies it produces.

Related to the above, measuring antibodies to specific diseases has become an important tool in helping doctors identify the exact cause of an illness.

The above description is very much a simplification of what actually happens. The immune system is incredibly complex and there is still much to learn about its function.


Tove-

I think vaccines have to be repeated because they don't really work. In the US, in states like Iowa, there is an outbreak of mumps... despite widespread vaccination. many of the people getting sick had the vaccination.

Tove-

don't give up entirely on allergies... they can be cleared, and sometimes clear on their own... Check out NAET, BRT, JMT and other similar treatments... work well for some, not for others... I think the success of the treatment depends on taking a holistic approach to health through diet, cleansing ect.

Tove,
Can you point me to some info about the cell mutation and allergies?
Thanks.