Candida Detox

too much flush, cleanse, detox
so ive just read through most of the cure zone website and im so confused..... but also completely intimidated! all of the flushing and cleansing and detox and once every three months? you could spend your entire life doing a flush a cleanse or a detox...!

also it says do a parasite flush then a bowel detox then a liver then a kidney...im worried if i even make it through any of those programs ill turn into a complete maniac with a cauldron mixing broths....

and most of the diets include some sort of fruit based days...i cant eat fruit...!

i give up completely. id rather be sick and eat yums then healthy and insanely figuring out how to survive one week on even one of those programs !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
by the time i figure out how to do any of those programs ill be in a mental institution.....!!!!!!!!
why is it so f-ing complicated!!!!!!!

plus i have a life or at least want to have one!!!! its so frustrating to spend entire days thinking and talking about what goes in and what comes out...!!!! i hate this!!!!! why wasnt i born healthy!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

what if i just promise to eat really really well and all organic and chew small bites and no sugar and no grains and take all my vitamins.................ill be bloated sometimes and tired and dragging sometimes but not nearly as bad as before with cakes and coca cola and no brain function-- and ill still have a bit of a life !!!!!!!!!

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Kudos to You....I totally agree with what you wrote. Back to basics. I've done it all, colonics, liver cleansing, vitamins, etc., etc. Candida is an opportunist illness which means that the immune system, by being depressed from stress, allergies, medications, etc., etc., gives Candida the opportunity to take hold in your system. You cannot build up the immune system by continuously overloading the body with all kinds of new fixes that are recommended on this or any other site.
Thank you and all others who have contributed to your posting....

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curezone is an information clearinghouse, any many different programs are discussed there. you can't possibly do all of it. just read and learn, follow the things that appeal to you. no one person is in charge there, so you will even see that many of the different programs contradict.

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i understand thats it references numerous diets and thousands of people are giving advice simply based on their own experiences....

i was using curezone as an example... i know that not everything works for just one person...we are all quite different and even the slighest variation in any which way effects the way candida behaves and manifests in our bodies (and any other disease for that matter....)

i think i was just so frustrated about the intense work that needs to go on to 'cure this' according to some. ive spent the first 26 years of my life focusing daily on my illness and what some call maintenance i think is an extreme hastle and in some case obsession (which is good in some cases and important --- so please no one get angry at me for saying that - its just my own opinion to not make this my obsession---im obsessed about many other things !) ....i understand the benefits of cleansing and really truly believe that if i did ALL of the things to cleanse and detox etc that i would probably feel like a million bucks - but in my opinion i would be sacraficing SO much of my being to constantly be doing all of those things all of the time..... if there was a way to do a simple maintence hell i would do it in a heartbeat and i think to an extant i am with my diet which ive changed 90%....

of course i want to be proactive and take care of myself --- i just think maybe theres a simple back to basics approach where im not so self absorbed with my daily rituals.....i would go crazy..... keep in mind this is only my opinion at this time....i mean maybe if i were to dedicate myself to a life of detox and flush i would find i love it...but i cant imagine focusing my life like that - i have a lot i want to do and just want to be at least 60% healthier than i was for the previous 26 years---which for me would be AMAZING feeling....i want to be as healthy as i can without losing myself one way or another (meaning trashing my insides or overcleansing) to this illness.....

its great i think that some are strong enough and care enough to want to focus their daily lives on these cleansings and detoxings and i have lots of friends that do it and feel great but i think there must be a happy medium somewhere in between and as a choice for myself i dont think its the right one -- i think if i can get healthy enough through basic cleansing and diet that i would be quite satisfied and not so overfocused and absorbed on my own illness which has already been the primary focus of my life!!!! i want to put all of the extra time and energy into my art and writing and work and (if i ever get healthy enough, one day having children!)

(...shit sorry so long guys....i promise next one i write will be super short....!)

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when you make good fundamental changes in your life, after a short time, they cease to be work. once you begin eating healthy and cleanse out all the old damage from before, there should be no need for constant cleansing at all. i myself hardly give it much though these days. in the end, its all relative.

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i suppose i am obsessed by cleansing, in that i believe it is very important to regain health. But as for day in, day out ritual of cleansing?? I agree with JohnG, get it out and improve your diet. What's better? focusing on every label for the rest of life, afraid of flare ups, or having a body strong enough to withstand bad foods and lifestyle choices. Like today, 2 lattes, and 2 new york cheese cakes, for me! i dont focus on my foods, dont need to, but because of the work i did, i can stray off the so called candida diet. It just so happens i mainly eat yeastfree, sugarfree and whiteflour free etc anyway now.

Again, as for obsessing and daily rituals,i dont relate to that.i have gone overboard on the fasts/intestinal cleasning, only because it keeps yielding more and more long ropes from my insides. Great to have it out-yuk. But i now have a much better, balanced approach to what i eat and drink, where i dont have to go out to dinner and focus on what i eat etc. I am considered by most people i know to be very healthy, that wasnt the case a couple of years ago. I have more energy and am so glad for the knowledge that i learnt firstly on this website. Good luck with whatever approach you take, hopefully it gives you the results you want, and you can live normally one day, not focused/obsessed on health issues and constantly watching/avoiding foods.

I only try to share this info, as i know how frustrating it is to live your life feeling sick and hopeless. It doesnt matter at all to me what people choose to do, but i feel the need to get the word out, that there are ways to regain your health. I know alot here rubbish this approach, fair enough, but "The person who says it cannot be done should not interrupt the person doing it." ( from the curezone website)We are all different in our problems, but i feel we have the need to cleanse, not just people who are sick.

I dont know how people cant understand the theory/logic behind cleansing they're system.

Anyway ! very tired and rambling on. You hit a nerve there Lauren, i respect your thoughts though.

See yah!

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i wasnt speaking directly to anyone!....and certainly not blowing off anyones choices....just as you choose to not focus on a strict diet i choose not to focus on a strict cleansing ritual....i understand cleansing IS important it is extremely clear why a body that is cleansed properly works better and longer....im quite well educated and not closed minded at all and understand biologically and medically why cleansing works..for me however i think i may choose a middle road path focusing on both diet and cleansing --- and other things like heller work and supplements and breathing and getting rid of people in my life that are bad energy so that i have a happy comfortable balance for me....!

i certainly didnt mean to put anyone down for a choice they make !-- i simply stated for me its not the right balance...we are all so different naturally we make different choices....peter im sorry if i offended you or anyone else....not my intention in the least! and not trying to draw a line in the sand between the cleansers and the dieters.....belive me! im hesitant about anyone selling me something or taking me too far left or too far right...im all about balance....just struggling to find it!

lets be friends again! :)

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No worries! its cool, cant talk, late for walk! Have a very nice day. Talk later.

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Hey, I've spent hundreds of hours researching candida and have been to the curezone site many times. It may work for some, but it's definately NOT for me. I'm healing myself with diet alone and it CAN be done this way. I tried every supplement and anti-fungal under the sun and they ALL backfired eventually making me sicker in a different way. Oregano oil put me in the ER with a terrible rash on my face. These things can really upset the natural balance.

So, do what you said. Stick to a strict version of the diet and try to figure out what foods are o.k. for YOU and only you. Good luck. p.s. it took me three years to figure it out and I still make mistakes.

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I agree completely....supplements were just making me worse. You get sucked up in the idea that a new supplement will be the answer...you spend the money for nothing....not to mention what it does to you mentally. The diet is the answer for me and I use foods to heal....like garlic and coconut oil when I am ready for a little die-off, like beets when I want to assist the liver, and homemade yogurt to add probiotics daily. My body is much happier with this gentle approach.

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Hello, exactly. It takes time to let the diet work. I wasted so much money on supplements and anti-fungals. I wish I had it all back. Remember what Aristotle said, "all things in moderation"

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forget supplements and all the rest of it in the beginning, get on the diet for a few months, then assess the situation from there.

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That sounds like a sensible approach Gala. Have you had any improvements doing this?

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I followed the SCD diet for several years and felt absolutely healthy...so healthy that I began to add gluten and starches back into my diet. I learned my lesson and have now gone back on the SCD diet...a sort of intro version of the diet to give my intestines a chance to heal. I do not eat any grains, starches or sugar. I mainly eat lots of cooked vegetables (no potatoes) and some cooked fruit (peeling and cooking allows them to be digested more easily)...fish, chicken, lamb and beef, and homemade goat's milk yogurt. The SCD diet allows other foods but I will work up to those like I did before. The SCD diet is based on solid scientific findings...it does work but you have to take it slow at first.

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From what I understand, avoiding grains can also stop auto immune disease. Some people are highly allergic and dont reae this. When they eat continual foods that they are allergic to, it can set up chronic inflammation that the body is forever trying to fight.

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I am a little familiar with the SCD diet. I read about it, but it actually sounded to be LESS restrictive than the candida diet ( which I follow ). So you are saying you eat NO grains at ALL???

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I refrain from eating any kind of grain products...the SCD diet has recipes that use nut flour so it isn't like you can't have things like muffins, etc... There are delicious recipes provided...it becomes a way of life...and you will never feel hungry!

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Interesting. Thanks---I will investigate it further.

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Its not that difficult, cleansing and flushing. And once you have cleansed thoroughly you would only need yearly maintenance, like a your car. Read up on what JohnG suggests, he knows what he's talking about( in my opinion). Also Richard Anderson has a very good site cleanse.net. You have to change the internal terrain, its alright starving the candida etc, but it will never let you go back to what you used to eat. Not that you should be eating crap, like cake and coke, but you should be able to on occassion. I am that much better, the results speak for themselves. I dont proclaim to have the exact way to do it, or the right approach or the right order, but i am yielding the results. I can stray from my diet now, but due to being used to healthy nutritious food, i have that primarily now anyhow. I will be thankful for these health issues soon, as i have learnt a better way to live, and i think the knowledge of the cleansing is worth more than you realise. I think the doubters here havent had their intestines cleared at all, and they're full of mucoid plaque festering with candida and his buddies partying 365days a year.Colonics dont touch the 28foot of the small intestine. Clean out their home, eat a more alkaline diet, be happy and it should click into place. Although i still have slight sinus problem, my last flush, seemed to improve me and i am trying some adrenal support tablets, as my sinus inflammation/infection may be due to poor adrenal function, affecting cortisol quantity released into the body which inhibits inflammation from allergies. Feeling quite good, except doing 4 x double shifts =AARRRGGGGHHH!

Its all food for thought. The colosan sounds like an excellent intestinal cleanser, try that if you dont want to do anything dramatic (like blessedhebs.com's colon cleansing kit), and the liver flush is simple anyway. Babbling on, at work, better go and do some. BYE!

Ps- See if you can get your hands on "cleanse and purify thself" by Richard anderson, book 1 and 2. I think 2 is better, he gets a little religous like, but the cleansing info is superb and mostly backed up by medical references.

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Hi! You say many people here are still ill because they haven't cleaned out their intestines ( inc. small intestine ). Well I have done LOTS of cleansings inc. colonics ( over 25 ), Colonix, Oxypowder ( both of these last two are supposed to clean small intestine ) and loads of those harsh liver flushes but I cannot say I am near well at all. Curious as to what you are saying. I see you made mention of Richard Andersons Cleanse. Are you saying that along with an alkaline diet helped you? I think his cleanse advocates fasting which I cannot do. I guess we all be different :-)

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Hello, I didn't do the richard anderson cleanse, but one similiar that involved fasting. Strongly recommend it. It sounds to me like you are in need of cleansing, with food allergies and such severe reactions to substances. Just my opinion, dont give up on the cleansing idea from your experience. Have you seen large amounts of stones for mthe liver/gallbladder or mucoid plaque come from your intestines? If you did, i find it hard to believ you didn't get benefit. I have just become aware that my adrenals may be part of my problem, not that i feel that bad anymore anyway, just inflammation in my sinus. Someone here the other day made mention of it and i researched it and bought metagenics adrenal tone formula and feel diferent already. hopefully it is the final answer for me. i did probably the same amount of colonics as you, but my real improvements came with liver cleanse and the small intestinal cleanse, of which colonics dont help.

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i'm curious, which type of liver flush did you do, and why do you think they have not helped you? do you avoid processed food and or have you checked for food allergies?

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I did the Hulda Clark version. They made my situation worse because I have severe gut inflamation ( similar to chrones ) from leaky gut. When all that rushing bile is released into my intestine, it makes me severely ill with pain and burning for weeks on end. And yes, I did colonics afterwards which only depleted my beneficial flora all the more. Not that I am against colonics- they absolutely saved my life a few years ago when I was so constipated I had hardly any BM's for years. God, I wish I had known about them years before :-(. Yes, I have food allergies as well which I am doing the best I can to deal with. I am actually doing much better with those these days but I must be SO careful what I consume. Supplements are like poison to me with all thier crappy fillers and God knows what other garbage in them. Even vitamins make me burn anymore so I avoid them.

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I do think that food allergies can be a huge problem for a lot of people. but, even these I don't believe are genetic. the body is reacting in that way for a reason. the cure lies in understanding why. of course not easy to figure out, but ultimately, what choice do you have?

hang in there.



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Oh, and another thing-- what kinds of foods are you eating? I've been on this damn diet for years now and it never does a bit of good. I think it only keeps me from dying. I am sat here eating a bean quesadilla with black beans and a brown rice wrap and I am starting to feel "off". I hardly eat any grains at all, but I feel like I simply must have some ( gluten free )every now and then to keep me alive.

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