White Tongue

I noticed that, even though my tongue has a white coating, I cannot scrape/brush it off. Do you think that it is, in fact, not Candida? I look at my tongue a lot, and it seems that the papillae are fairly long and white and that's why my tongue is white. Last night I decided not to brush my teeth just to see what my tongue will look like in the morning - it was the same white. Didn't come off when I brushed my tongue (brushed it fairly long too, just not too hard, as not to irritate it).


It comes from the stomach, and when you find out what is wrong and correct it, you will get rid of it. Both bacterial infectins and candida is easier for the body to get under control if you eat a non-sugar diet and lots of greens. Also probiotica helps for both. Then you can excercise and live generally healthy, and if it still doens't go away, you can try antifungals or antibacterials: best through a knowledgeable doctor who knows about this kind of things.


A white tongue isn't always candida. Thrush usually is quite painful and able to be scraped off easily.


Yeah... I can't scrape it off... And it's generally thin, just thicker at the back of the tongue. I looked closely, and it's not a foreign body (such as phlegm), rather it's the papillae of the tongue. I had sweets 2 days in a row... I can't see a problem so far, but if there is no BM today that would be 2 days in a row (different, since I had loose stools last week). I am taking probiotics, finally did start getting up early and exercising, and taking grapefruit seed extract just in case. And I am slowly getting over an HIV scare from a non-threatening encounter (apparently I am quite the hypochondriac).


Hypocrondiac? The first thing a doctor wants to know is how a person is feeling...please list symptoms. Right? When watching tv commercials for prescriptions, haven't we all been exposed to a list of symptoms that might occur with product use? YOU are with YOU 24 hours a day 7 days a week and should know when something isn't as it should be. Being aware enough to zone in on what needs addressed isn't being a hypocrondiac...it's a mark of being human and alive and wanting to enjoy life. Stressing is typically a sign that those that should be helping haven't offered proper help and in a sense have defrauded a person. Let those "professionals" with that "care less" deficiency deal with that issue and use your time discovering something better.

You are on the right track...just remember that even candida is a symptom of a body that hasn't been fed and cleansed properly(or been overwhelmed by toxins at the hand of someone else...air, water, medical/dental procedures, hair salon/barber visits, air fresheners/scented petrol candles, etc.). Focus more...but not obsessively...on eliminating what makes folks ill(toxic thoughts and people included) and on including what is the most healthy for the body. Remember that supplements are typically synthetic and also have to be processed by body organs. Some people find liver and kidney cleansing very beneficial(look for posts by johng here or find info on curezone.com...Andreas Moritz is the main guru there though Richard Schulze herbdoc.com and others promote cleansing). Many people find supplementing with herbs helpful(they nourish and promote the body to cleanse naturally).

You uniquely arrived where you are yet there are laws of nature with the human body that guarantee turning toward improved health doesn't have to be impossible. Listen to YOUR body! One step at a time...one day at a time...always pressing foward while navigating speed bumps and potholes along the way. Be safe...avoid circumstances that foster HIV possibilities(having to wonder about it is like a toxin to the body and becomes a stressor on the immune system). Stay positive...it is highly possible that you will help others with what you have experienced and conquered one day very soon. Take care, :-)


About hypochondria... I actually AM hypochondric. Or was (and it's never really gone, as far as I know). Two years ago I went through an entire year of cancer hypochondria. I thought I had all kinds of cancer. Whenever I went and did all the necessary tests for a cancer, and it turned out there was no problem, I would start imagining the symptoms of a different one. I started from throat cancer, went through testicular, brain, etc. cancers. Not a good thing!
Now... I had no problems with anything until I decided to read on HIV safety and symptoms. THAT is when I started experiencing the extreme (and typical for hypochondria) anxiety. 2 weeks of almost no food or water, extreme stress, etc. I stopped being active at all, I would just lie and sit (yeah, not even EAT!). Also that's when I started noticing (or creating, rather) symptoms. I am slowly getting over it.
And the HIV thing - I received oral sex. Evidently, receiving oral is not even considered a risk, and of the over 40 million HIV-positive people, not one has been documented to have gotten infected via receiving oral sex (and only a few, highly-questionably, have received it via performing oral sex). Plus my partner tested negative.
All of that is evidential - it's hypochondria and that's the thing I have to deal with. Even if I do have Candida, it was DEFINITELY caused by hypochondria and the anxiety that it causes.
Thanks for replying to me :)


I'm so sorry that you've gone through so much. My pleasure replying to you, too! Do you sense that you can deal with what you actually do have physically and get a handle on the hypocondria with positive change(guess you have to relearn how to tell the difference between what is real and what unfolds thru the power of what you choose to set your mind on to think)? Don't know too much about it and not at all from personal experience...I'm one of those types that would rather pay attention to and enjoy other details in the world with my body on autopilot. :-)


Well... I don't quite have it under control. Just a few minutes ago I was leaning my head on my hand, and I felt a lymph node. It's a little smaller than a pea, but I hadn't felt it there before, when I did purposefully check my nodes. So it scared the **** out of me. I almost panicked. This is ridiculous and horrible. I don't want to fear again. Ugh!!!


Take a calming breath and keep in mind that swollen glands can be from a mild allergy...which can be a result of the digestive tract being a little off kilter...which stress(in the form of an antiobitic or your own anxiety) can set to motion. SOOOOO...relax...do what is healthy and enjoy something the world has to offer. When I was very ill with candida and couldn't function far from being prone on the sofa, I found the time good for some studies and found ways to be an encouragement to someone else. It tends to help a person not to implode through being consumed with negativity. Like to read mysteries, maybe? Check with your local library for lighter reads(remember the Nancy Drew or Hardy Boys?...not just for young readers, you know!) or see what they have with a little humor in the way of videos. Maybe even something in the family section...yup, some of the children's movies are a great way to relax. You have to let your immune system get down to business without tying it up in knots. You think?


I don't know the books you mentioned... Not from the US :) I am just scared, you know? I had relaxed! And now - THIS!

Yes, I know it could be from many things. Right now I just fear one, and I have been told a NUMBER of times (and read it in a number of professional sites) that I have been at no risk... But I am terrified. Really. Trying to calm down... Really...


Oh...sorry, I see where you are from now. hmmmmm, do you have library access? Librarians are usually quite friendly to those wanting to be involved with reading for enjoyment/relaxation. Do your libraries have magazines? Do you have a hobby? Gosh, there are some gents that learn to do crafts such as knitting or crochet when needing money for school or when recovering from surgery and then go on to great business ventures! The way I look at fear is that it can take hold when there isn't any hope. Please know that I was very ill...was bounced around in the medical system...and there was hope for me. There have been folks come to this forum very ill and they found they could hang their hat on hope, also. I don't want this to come across as my being harsh...but every single person that has ever come here has had to make a choice to exchange fear with being determined to have hope and press toward a goal. Can you? I'm not often here but I know that the names I recognize would keep you pointed in the right direction...if only you take the first step to know you can be an overcomer. :-)


OOPS, clicked to post when I shouldn't have. I'm doing so much better...still have some spinal kinks to undo but don't have to watch everything that goes in my mouth these days. For Thanksgiving, I reflected on how, not that long ago, I had to do a little in the kitchen and then head for the sofa in complete exhaustion. It was such a struggle to prepare one dish to be ready for cooking/baking. This year, I made free range no additive turkey with stuffing, creamed corn(corn starch, milk, and honey), yams(maple syrup grade B, unsalted butter), fresh green beans with slab bacon, mashed potatoes and gravy, cornbread with buttermilk, pickled eggs/beets with raw honey and ACV, fresh cranberry sauce, meat market homemade kielbassi, baked apples with raw honey/cinnamon, pumpkin pie, apple crisp...all I can recall and probably it(and did dishes along the way WOWZERS!). Ate a little of everything and felt no worse for it. Quite an improvement from being flat on the sofa or sliding down a wall to sit in a corner when trying to go from one room to another. And you? Hope you have had improvement since we last talked! :-)


That sounded sooo good.Why didnt you invite me to dinner?Seriously, I am glad to hear that you are doing so well. Those good times are sure appreciated when you have been thru some bad health days.


:-) Sometimes the little baby steps along the way aren't so easily recognized but it sure is wonderful to compare the bottomed-out scenario with what has happened with a pinch of time added to the view.


I had almost gotten over the fear! I was feeling great the past few days. But now this stupid little lymph node scared me so much. And it shouldn't have... Hypochondria is no fun. And I sincerely hope that's all it is - hypochondria. I think I will get tested tomorrow, just for myself. My partner tested negative, so I should be OK!


I know hypocondria can evolve into depression but I'm seeing someone that is taking charge rather than not wanting to do much or anything. He has a history of recent antibiotics, a questionable encounter, has swollen lymph glands, the throat looked inflamed/red to the sides and to the back of the tongue in the pic further down the page(what I have had with candida and sinus drainage), there is abnormal white on the tongue, and he's had digestive problems with ice cream but did okay with Chinese(is that right?). Why would you think depression(gosh, maybe it is just my dislike of that word because so many with real disease process get shoved into that box because no one takes time to deal with the real root of the problems)?


I was just wondering of you have any family history of depression


I shouldnt have written that to her. I always am the first one to be annoyed when someone suggests depression (esp doctors) when a person is describing illness. It is very unlike me to ever suggest this because I believe that these illnesses are very real and physical. I think that if depression enters in, that even the depression is caused by physical chemical changes due to the illness be it candida or whatever. The reason that I even suggested this was because I had read once that obsessing over having various illnesses (ie reading about an illness and then suddenly worrying that you have it) can suggest a form of depression. I had a friend that was experiencing pain everywhere in his body. the doctors could find no logical reason for it. He had all kinds of blood work done and then the doctors started inquiring about his family history and it turned out that thee was a history of depression. He went on antidepressants and the pain went away. apparently some people that have depression feel pain because they dont have the proper serotonin to block pain recpetors. they feel pain that othere dont. For him, it was a breakthrough. Most people that have candida , chronic fatigue, etc. Know that they are ill and are frustrated with the depression diagnosis(and rightly so).Nicola seems to doubt that she has an illness and yet seems convinced at the same time. I am not sure that I am making any sense here but I do apologize for implying that her illness isnt real. I just wanted to rule this out. I do know that obesessing over anything including an illness like thiking you have cancer, can be from depression. That is not to say that the depression isnt from candida,lyme or food allergies.I am sorry for the misunderstanding and I apologize to you nicola


I know you meant only good, and hope my asking didn't come across negatively toward you. It's something we've all had to evaluate with ourselves as the medical field sure loves to sling that word around when they don't want to really listen or devote time to finding root problems with folks(and mostly because they can't go against the acceptable protocol without getting a slap right in their pocketbook and license/practice). Was just thinking about a little caution concerning adding something else for him to think about, seeing as Nicola does have some physical observations and did have a history of medicine. Hope he is feeling better now(should know whether it was strep or not by now, wouldn't you think?). :-)


I think that getting tested would be a great idea! Then you will be armed with information, can continue researching and grab onto hope while you press forward! :-)